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Test Talks: Automation Awesomeness: Test Automation Using Sahi with Narayan Raman

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Our CEO Mr. Narayan Raman was featured on Joe Colantonio’s Test Talks. Listen to the Test Talk to discover why Sahi Pro might be the right choice and the parameters to consider while choosing a test automation tool, apart from other insights on Sahi Pro and Sahi Open Source.

135: Test Automation Using Sahi with Narayan Raman

Quotes & Insights from this Test Talk

  • Created Sahi After Attempt at Agile Needed something more lightweight and easier to use. Developers and browsers were moving too fast
  • Very tester-focused, an effort to make it easier for a nyone to automate applications. Many testers are not programmers, and Sahi helps them understand the basics. Most testing code is procedural; you take steps and you verify results. Sahi helps to keep it simple! Organize functions into the right files Make sure you’re calling the right parameters
  • This tool is good for both testers and developers. Developers write the application as it should function; the automation team and the tester team should be able to work with a working application, and be able to automate it; they should no thave anything extra done for that automation. If the tool requires more, there’s going to be pushback from developers. The end tester should know about only the actions he performs on the
  • Example: “Recording a sequence for playback is considered a tricky task on most web applications,” but this was fairly successful. Helped testers to quickly automate the app and script it took tester through 30% or 40% of initial automation phase. After that, you should be refactoring the code into functions and have reusable libraries
  • Sahi’s Recorder, and being able to work more closely with the browser, helped make the testing process faster. Record and Playback records image in Javascript. There’s also a Java Recorder
    Sahi vs Selenium (both came out around the same time)
    * Premises
    – “ Selenium was built on the premise that the developer himself would also write every test for everything that he builds; he has full control over the application that he’s testing.”
    – In Sahi, the end tester does not need to know too much about the app. If there is something he needs to automate, he does not need to go back to the developer all the time.
    – Operations
    – Selenium uses XPath, CSS Selectors, Waits, etc
    – Sahi handles a lot of complexity internally
    – enters Javascript into web page
    – Hooks into XMLHTTPRequestObject, and wait until AJAX activity
    has subsided on the page before proceeding to execute a step
    – Eliminates need for implicit or explicit waits
    – “Any element of interest to automation will always have something by
    which it can be identified, even if it doesn’t have an ID…Depending on the
    kind of element, we have a sequence of attributes by which we try to
    identify that element… the code automatically iterates to the frame and
    finds the element.”
    – “XPath is a strict no-no in Sahi.”
    – Does not rely on structure of HTML page to ID elements
    – Makes elements more stable
    – Sahi is similar to Selenium IDE, but it will work on any browser
    – Recorder will carry over between browsers, as well
    – Finds most useful attribute value during recording phase, and stores that one only
    – Eventually, triggers will come from a continuous integration system
  • Sahi Pro ( www.sahipro.com )
    – Adds enterprise features to Sahi
    – Better for bigger organizations with larger suites
    – Helps test automation team focus on the automation itself
    – Distribution across multiple machines
    – Test suite executed across all machines
    – Pull reports and generate one consolidated report
    – Can be stored in a database
    – Puts system reports in database
    – Reports are more varied and configurable
    – Historic overview available for test suite
    – Can analyze trends and patterns
    – Log reports
    – Screenshots
  • When choosing tools or trying to automate, think what is important for the business, and not what is important for a resume review. What adds the most business value is what is going to take you higher in your organization, and also is going to help the business that you’re actually employed with.

Feel free to request a demo and check out if your automation challenges can be solved using Sahi Pro.

ThoughtWorks Studios’ Twist 2.0 with Sahi

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ThoughtWorks announces Twist 2.0 availability from 31st March 2010:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/thoughtworks-studios-new-twist-20-provides-collaborative-agile-test-management-85809582.html

Tyto Software has been collaborating with ThoughtWorks Studios to integrate Sahi with Twist and results will be visible in Twist 2.0.

“Twist 2.0 has added Sahi as an additional option for web testing. The main benefit of Sahi is that it abstracts out most difficulties that testers face while automating web applications. Its features include an excellent recorder, platform and browser independence, no XPaths, no waits and multi-threaded playback. In addition, it allows you to identify UI components within the application as you record test scenarios.” Announcing Twist 2.0: Available for download on March 31

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